Andrew McKenzie Souter

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Andrew McKenzie Souter

Birth
Liverpool, Metropolitan Borough of Liverpool, Merseyside, England
Death
14 Aug 1892 (aged 38)
Port Erin, Rushen, Isle of Man
Burial
Buried or Lost at Sea. Specifically: Killed when the ship Thracian capsized and sank; he went down with the ship and his body was never recovered. Add to Map
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Andrew McKenzie Souter
1853 - 1892

Father: Andrew Souter/Soutar
Mother: Elizabeth McKenzie Souter
Spouse: Sarah Elizabeth Harrison Souter
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LOSS OF THE THRACIAN, 1892

VIOLENT GALE IN THE IRISH SEA
TERRIBLE DISASTER TO A NEW SHIP
CAPSIZED OFF PORT ERIN
CREW OF LIVERPOOL RIGGERS DROWNED
LOSS OF 17 LIVES

The heavy gale on Sunday night which at times increased to hurricane force, was the cause of one of the most painful disasters recorded for a long time.

The wind, from S.S.W. rose early in the evening after a fresh breeze during the morning. With it the waves rose, by darkness there was a heavy sea running about the Manx coast.

Out in the Channel the weather was tempestuous, especially near the Gulf of Man where with southerly or south-westerly winds the seas ran very high. It was near this spot the calamity occurred, the news obtained on the arrival to Douglas this morning of the screw steam tug SARAH JOLLIFFE, one of the fleet of tugs owned by Messers JOLLIFFE of Liverpool.

On Thursday last the SARAH JOLLIFFE left Liverpool for Glasgow on orders to tow into the Mersey the fine four-masted ship THRACIAN, just built, and lying in the port of Glasgow in ballast.

The SARAH JOLLIFFE carrying a crew of 12 all told, Capt. Owen JONES a native of Amlwch, North Wales, also took ten men from Liverpool to act as a temporary crew. These men known as "runners," arrived all well with the tug at Port Glasgow, and were joined by 5 other men shipped for the trip, the Captain and Captain's wife making 17 persons on board.

The tug left the Clyde on Saturday evening with the ship in tow, the weather then was moderate with occasional squalls from the south-west. On Sunday evening, by which time the steamer and her charge were midway between Point-of-Ayre and Belfast Lough, the wind rose and by dusk was blowing full gale with mountainous seas.

The THRACIAN was light in ballast [fatally as it turned out] as strong as the tug was she found it impossible to drag the ship against land and sea. By 10 o'clock all Captain JONES could do was stand by the ship, keeping her head to the sea and hoping for a change in the weather.

At 11:30 Captain JONES says, there was a lull in the storm and then a furious squall hurled itself upon the two vessels. The tug stood it bravely, but to the horror of all, the ship suddenly fell the wind and heeled over on her beam ends. Capt. JONES' crew immediately slipped the tow rope to save the tug and bore down to the sinking ship to be seen floating bottom up, a couple of minutes later the ship disappeared, not a trace of wreckage, nor any person could be seen in the water. Capt. JONES cruised about the spot for hours but found nothing.

The vessel was under the command of Herbert H. BROWN of Glasgow.

LIVERPOOL RIGGERS:

- Andrew SOUTER, aged 39, 38 Olive St, leaves a wife [expecting] and 6 children [known as "Joe" to the riggers]
- James FITZGERALD, aged 41, 14 Raffles St, married with a family
- Michael NAYLOR, aged 43, 6 House, 23 Court, Hornby St
- Edward DALTON, aged 32, 42 Twiss St
- Moses HARPER, aged 28, 14 Raffles St
- Edward ST CLARE, aged 50, 62 Pitt St
- Michael BIRD, married with one child
- Michael NEARY, leaves a wife and 6 children, youngest, a few weeks old
- Pete COYNE, married with a family
- A 10th man, name not known

The first 6 men are members of the National Independent Seaman and Fireman's Union. Names of Glasgow men not known at present.

THRACIAN built for Mr. W. M. THOMPSON of St John's N.B, agent Messers T. SALEY and sons, Brunswick St. The vessel weighed 2,000 tons, built by Mr. Robert DUNCAN of Port Glasgow.

—Source: Old Mersey Times, [Original: "Douglas Telegraph", published in the Liverpool Echo, 15 Aug 1892], accessed and transcribed by Annie Duckett Hundley, Andrew Souter's 2nd great-granddaughter.
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ANDREW McKENZIE SOUTER | LIFE SKETCH

Written by his youngest daughter, Jennie Souter McReavy Wolgamott, who never met her father as she was born four months after he was killed:

"Andrew Souter, son of Andrew Souter and Elizabeth McKenzie, was born 26th August 1853, at 58 Stanhope Street, Toxteth Park, County Lancaster, England. Records would indicate that he had one sister, Elizabeth, as no mention is made of any other children. Andrew was christened in the Fairfield Wesleyan Chapel, West Derby, Liverpool, England. He was a devout Church member and for several years he taught a Sunday school class of boys. According to reports, he had a very good influence with his class members.

"He and Sarah Elizabeth Harrison were married in the same Church, where she also taught a Sunday school class of boys. When the Minister asked Sarah about teaching a class of wild boys, she replied, "Give me a bunch of wild ones anytime, rather than a bunch of angels. I believe that I can do more with them." Further evidence of Andrew's deep religious nature is reflected in a letter he wrote from sea stating, "Thank God we can worship Him on water as well as on land."

"Andrew's father was a provision dealer, which occupation he followed through life.

"At an early age Andrew joined the British Maritime Seamen. He was a Rigger and sailed around the world, spending considerable time in China during the Boxer Uprising. Andrew loved the sea and was deeply interested in any kind of boat or ship.

"Well, do I remember my Mother telling me of an incident, when my father was taking her on a boat cruise to a seaside resort on an August Bank Holiday. There were ten people on the boat. It was a beautiful day, but my father being a good seaman realized that a storm was coming and advised Skipper, who was under the influence of liquor, that trouble was approaching, and offered in a tactful manner some suggestions on how to handle the situation. The Skipper ridiculed the idea of a storm and was obstinate and would not give in. When my father saw that no amount of persuasion would help, he had to take the Skipper by force to get control of the boat, and thus through his efforts, the lives of all on board were saved.

"Later, my father received a merit of award from British Maritime for his courageous efforts in saving the lives at sea, under duress. He made many trips, and sad to relate, he became a victim of the sea he loved so well.

"On August 13, 1892, he signed his name for a trip on the new ship, the Thracian, on her maiden voyage. The following day, August 14, 1892, just a few hours after leaving the port, the ship sank. Captain Herbert Brown, the crew of twenty, and six Liverpool riggers all lost their lives."

—Jennie Souter Wolgamott | The Souter Family Book of Remembrance | 1968
Andrew McKenzie Souter
1853 - 1892

Father: Andrew Souter/Soutar
Mother: Elizabeth McKenzie Souter
Spouse: Sarah Elizabeth Harrison Souter
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LOSS OF THE THRACIAN, 1892

VIOLENT GALE IN THE IRISH SEA
TERRIBLE DISASTER TO A NEW SHIP
CAPSIZED OFF PORT ERIN
CREW OF LIVERPOOL RIGGERS DROWNED
LOSS OF 17 LIVES

The heavy gale on Sunday night which at times increased to hurricane force, was the cause of one of the most painful disasters recorded for a long time.

The wind, from S.S.W. rose early in the evening after a fresh breeze during the morning. With it the waves rose, by darkness there was a heavy sea running about the Manx coast.

Out in the Channel the weather was tempestuous, especially near the Gulf of Man where with southerly or south-westerly winds the seas ran very high. It was near this spot the calamity occurred, the news obtained on the arrival to Douglas this morning of the screw steam tug SARAH JOLLIFFE, one of the fleet of tugs owned by Messers JOLLIFFE of Liverpool.

On Thursday last the SARAH JOLLIFFE left Liverpool for Glasgow on orders to tow into the Mersey the fine four-masted ship THRACIAN, just built, and lying in the port of Glasgow in ballast.

The SARAH JOLLIFFE carrying a crew of 12 all told, Capt. Owen JONES a native of Amlwch, North Wales, also took ten men from Liverpool to act as a temporary crew. These men known as "runners," arrived all well with the tug at Port Glasgow, and were joined by 5 other men shipped for the trip, the Captain and Captain's wife making 17 persons on board.

The tug left the Clyde on Saturday evening with the ship in tow, the weather then was moderate with occasional squalls from the south-west. On Sunday evening, by which time the steamer and her charge were midway between Point-of-Ayre and Belfast Lough, the wind rose and by dusk was blowing full gale with mountainous seas.

The THRACIAN was light in ballast [fatally as it turned out] as strong as the tug was she found it impossible to drag the ship against land and sea. By 10 o'clock all Captain JONES could do was stand by the ship, keeping her head to the sea and hoping for a change in the weather.

At 11:30 Captain JONES says, there was a lull in the storm and then a furious squall hurled itself upon the two vessels. The tug stood it bravely, but to the horror of all, the ship suddenly fell the wind and heeled over on her beam ends. Capt. JONES' crew immediately slipped the tow rope to save the tug and bore down to the sinking ship to be seen floating bottom up, a couple of minutes later the ship disappeared, not a trace of wreckage, nor any person could be seen in the water. Capt. JONES cruised about the spot for hours but found nothing.

The vessel was under the command of Herbert H. BROWN of Glasgow.

LIVERPOOL RIGGERS:

- Andrew SOUTER, aged 39, 38 Olive St, leaves a wife [expecting] and 6 children [known as "Joe" to the riggers]
- James FITZGERALD, aged 41, 14 Raffles St, married with a family
- Michael NAYLOR, aged 43, 6 House, 23 Court, Hornby St
- Edward DALTON, aged 32, 42 Twiss St
- Moses HARPER, aged 28, 14 Raffles St
- Edward ST CLARE, aged 50, 62 Pitt St
- Michael BIRD, married with one child
- Michael NEARY, leaves a wife and 6 children, youngest, a few weeks old
- Pete COYNE, married with a family
- A 10th man, name not known

The first 6 men are members of the National Independent Seaman and Fireman's Union. Names of Glasgow men not known at present.

THRACIAN built for Mr. W. M. THOMPSON of St John's N.B, agent Messers T. SALEY and sons, Brunswick St. The vessel weighed 2,000 tons, built by Mr. Robert DUNCAN of Port Glasgow.

—Source: Old Mersey Times, [Original: "Douglas Telegraph", published in the Liverpool Echo, 15 Aug 1892], accessed and transcribed by Annie Duckett Hundley, Andrew Souter's 2nd great-granddaughter.
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ANDREW McKENZIE SOUTER | LIFE SKETCH

Written by his youngest daughter, Jennie Souter McReavy Wolgamott, who never met her father as she was born four months after he was killed:

"Andrew Souter, son of Andrew Souter and Elizabeth McKenzie, was born 26th August 1853, at 58 Stanhope Street, Toxteth Park, County Lancaster, England. Records would indicate that he had one sister, Elizabeth, as no mention is made of any other children. Andrew was christened in the Fairfield Wesleyan Chapel, West Derby, Liverpool, England. He was a devout Church member and for several years he taught a Sunday school class of boys. According to reports, he had a very good influence with his class members.

"He and Sarah Elizabeth Harrison were married in the same Church, where she also taught a Sunday school class of boys. When the Minister asked Sarah about teaching a class of wild boys, she replied, "Give me a bunch of wild ones anytime, rather than a bunch of angels. I believe that I can do more with them." Further evidence of Andrew's deep religious nature is reflected in a letter he wrote from sea stating, "Thank God we can worship Him on water as well as on land."

"Andrew's father was a provision dealer, which occupation he followed through life.

"At an early age Andrew joined the British Maritime Seamen. He was a Rigger and sailed around the world, spending considerable time in China during the Boxer Uprising. Andrew loved the sea and was deeply interested in any kind of boat or ship.

"Well, do I remember my Mother telling me of an incident, when my father was taking her on a boat cruise to a seaside resort on an August Bank Holiday. There were ten people on the boat. It was a beautiful day, but my father being a good seaman realized that a storm was coming and advised Skipper, who was under the influence of liquor, that trouble was approaching, and offered in a tactful manner some suggestions on how to handle the situation. The Skipper ridiculed the idea of a storm and was obstinate and would not give in. When my father saw that no amount of persuasion would help, he had to take the Skipper by force to get control of the boat, and thus through his efforts, the lives of all on board were saved.

"Later, my father received a merit of award from British Maritime for his courageous efforts in saving the lives at sea, under duress. He made many trips, and sad to relate, he became a victim of the sea he loved so well.

"On August 13, 1892, he signed his name for a trip on the new ship, the Thracian, on her maiden voyage. The following day, August 14, 1892, just a few hours after leaving the port, the ship sank. Captain Herbert Brown, the crew of twenty, and six Liverpool riggers all lost their lives."

—Jennie Souter Wolgamott | The Souter Family Book of Remembrance | 1968


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