I am descended from Marianne Joghs Tetoit [deTar] [de la Tour]Altman, thru her daughter, Anna Maria Altman who married first, before 1780, to Peter Robb/Raab [about 1764-Jan 1789]and secondly, Heinrich Jacob Krebs [Jacob Cribbs]on 16 Jun 1792 WSTD Co., PA. Jacob and Anna Maria's daughter, Anna Mary Cribbs, b. 08 Aug 1805, married Peter Christ Fehr/Fahr [Fair] and had Mary Jane Fair [1827-1900]who married Geo. Wash. Bell.
Mine is a totally female line of descent from our 'French Lady' :
Marianne Joghs [b.@ 1721-1729]
Anna Maria Altman [b.24 Apr 1766]
Anna Mary Cribbs [b.08 Aug 1805]
Mary Jane Fair [b.03 Jan 1827]
Mary Melissa Bell [b.15 Aug 1850]
Adna Mary Barr [b.12 Feb 1890]
Thelma Carol Allard [b.24 Dec 1922]
Jean Carolyn Miller [b.5 Aug 1946]
As you can see, we held on to the name 'Mary' for several generations until,[in my Mother's time], we lose it completely. I did not have a daughter, so there stops the female lineage. I've worked on family research since 1971 - I was a 'youngster' at the time. I was able to research in the WSTD and Indiana Cos., PA area right after Ruth Hall did the bulk of her search in the same area. The librarians and historians still had her fresh in their minds and I was able to review most of the same material that she had looked at. Later, we actually relocated to the Pittsburgh area and I had a field day for most of two years. Stompin thru cemeteries, wheezing thru dusty basements in Courthouses....heaven!
Naturally, as hindsight always is, I have many regrets about things I SHOULD have done and places I SHOULD have visited....The out come? I have a total respect for those early emigrants to western PA. Especially, a lady of gentle birth who either flung aside or was forcefully deprived of her civilized lifestyle and bore the riggers of the untamed wilds of PA, raising a family which lived by the motto: "While I Live, I Will Crow".
The following is a tale told to her descendants thru several branches of the family - long separated from each other by time and locale. Some truth must be contained in this legend, but so far little research has been applied to the French/German records of the early 1700's. It goes like this.............
Marianne Joghs,[19 Jun 1754 she signed as an executor of husband David's estate using the name 'Marianne Joghs Tetoit']Source: "Annette Kunselman Burgert, FGSP, FASG - Letters of administration for the estate of Marianne's husband)-Marianne hired a lawyer by the name of Biddle to plead her case when the court issued the following order on the '20th day of March in the 27th yr' of George II reign.....To the sherif of Northampton County Greeting. We command you that you summons Mary Ann Teterre lat (sic) of your County, Widow Executrix in her own wrong of all and the goods Chattels Rights and Credits which were of David Teterre deceased."
She was born of a Noble family and was Cousin to the King of France. History shows that Louis XIV ruled France from 1638-1715 and King Louis XV ruled from 1710-1774. She supposedly served as a Lady in Waiting to the French Royal Family. Her Family Crest was a Crowing Cock with the legend, "While I Live I Will Crow". The symbol of a crowing cock was sewn into linens and undergarments Marianne brought to WSTD Co., PA along with a footstool with a hidden compartment which always held her Bible. [quote, Ruth Hall]
The name Joghs, which Marianne used in her 1754 signatures,is a French-Swiss variant of Jacques or Jacobs. This family has frequently used the 'crowing cock' as their emblem. There is a branch of the Royal Family, named 'Joseph', who used the Crowing Cock as a family symbol.
Because they were Huguenot Protestants in a Roman Catholic country, her family suffered persecution. Marianne fled from France with the help of a man 'of the land' [de la Tour]who owned property close to her family's country estate - possibly across the river in more Germanic territory. She married this man whom we know as David De Tar (David Detroit, David de la Tour or David Detarre), also a Huguenot. It is said that she married contrary to the wishes of her family and was disinherited.
Marianne, David and their two children, Jacob & Catherine DeTar, came to this country about 1750. David DeTar brought on the journey across the ocean, four black horses, among their household possessions. He was conscripted into military service along with his prize equines within a short time after arriving in the New World.
Passage from Europe to America was funded, in part, by Marianne selling her fine clothes from the "Lady" days. Including her gold lace petti-coats [Under skirts].
According to Susan DeTar [gtgddau of David]"Shortly after their arrival, my father's grandfather,with his team of black horses, was pressed into service during the war with the Indians. He was never heard of thereafter. Through the children of my older Uncles who migrated West in the early part of 1800 [David & Andrew], the legend comes to us that my father's grandfather was scalped & burned at the stake, probably in Jumonville, PA". [a minor, though historical, skirmish did take place at Jumonville on 27 May 1754, but it is the author's belief that David likely disappeared closer to his home on Weissenberg twp. at the hands of restless Indians.]
Marianne collected 50# from her husband's estate, an uncommon occurrence for the era. She remarried
on October 1, 1755, to Johan Anton "Anthony" Altman who arrived in Philadelphia on 15 Sep 1749 aboard the ship 'Phoenix' with many family and neighbors from Herbitzheim, Alsace, Bas-Rhin, France. Also aboard this ship were the Keppel/Koppel family and two gents, Herman & Jacob Latur. This hints that it is possible Marianne knew Anton Altman prior to arriving in America.
Marianne & Anton and many others of this group, removed to western PA and settled in the Greensburg, WSTD Co. area, where they made their marks and populated the wilds of PA with their descendants.
How many thousands of us descend from her?
As long as we live, we will crow and her sacrifices will be rewarded in our memories.
Jeanie Brown
Mine is a totally female line of descent from our 'French Lady' :
Marianne Joghs [b.@ 1721-1729]
Anna Maria Altman [b.24 Apr 1766]
Anna Mary Cribbs [b.08 Aug 1805]
Mary Jane Fair [b.03 Jan 1827]
Mary Melissa Bell [b.15 Aug 1850]
Adna Mary Barr [b.12 Feb 1890]
Thelma Carol Allard [b.24 Dec 1922]
Jean Carolyn Miller [b.5 Aug 1946]
As you can see, we held on to the name 'Mary' for several generations until,[in my Mother's time], we lose it completely. I did not have a daughter, so there stops the female lineage. I've worked on family research since 1971 - I was a 'youngster' at the time. I was able to research in the WSTD and Indiana Cos., PA area right after Ruth Hall did the bulk of her search in the same area. The librarians and historians still had her fresh in their minds and I was able to review most of the same material that she had looked at. Later, we actually relocated to the Pittsburgh area and I had a field day for most of two years. Stompin thru cemeteries, wheezing thru dusty basements in Courthouses....heaven!
Naturally, as hindsight always is, I have many regrets about things I SHOULD have done and places I SHOULD have visited....The out come? I have a total respect for those early emigrants to western PA. Especially, a lady of gentle birth who either flung aside or was forcefully deprived of her civilized lifestyle and bore the riggers of the untamed wilds of PA, raising a family which lived by the motto: "While I Live, I Will Crow".
The following is a tale told to her descendants thru several branches of the family - long separated from each other by time and locale. Some truth must be contained in this legend, but so far little research has been applied to the French/German records of the early 1700's. It goes like this.............
Marianne Joghs,[19 Jun 1754 she signed as an executor of husband David's estate using the name 'Marianne Joghs Tetoit']Source: "Annette Kunselman Burgert, FGSP, FASG - Letters of administration for the estate of Marianne's husband)-Marianne hired a lawyer by the name of Biddle to plead her case when the court issued the following order on the '20th day of March in the 27th yr' of George II reign.....To the sherif of Northampton County Greeting. We command you that you summons Mary Ann Teterre lat (sic) of your County, Widow Executrix in her own wrong of all and the goods Chattels Rights and Credits which were of David Teterre deceased."
She was born of a Noble family and was Cousin to the King of France. History shows that Louis XIV ruled France from 1638-1715 and King Louis XV ruled from 1710-1774. She supposedly served as a Lady in Waiting to the French Royal Family. Her Family Crest was a Crowing Cock with the legend, "While I Live I Will Crow". The symbol of a crowing cock was sewn into linens and undergarments Marianne brought to WSTD Co., PA along with a footstool with a hidden compartment which always held her Bible. [quote, Ruth Hall]
The name Joghs, which Marianne used in her 1754 signatures,is a French-Swiss variant of Jacques or Jacobs. This family has frequently used the 'crowing cock' as their emblem. There is a branch of the Royal Family, named 'Joseph', who used the Crowing Cock as a family symbol.
Because they were Huguenot Protestants in a Roman Catholic country, her family suffered persecution. Marianne fled from France with the help of a man 'of the land' [de la Tour]who owned property close to her family's country estate - possibly across the river in more Germanic territory. She married this man whom we know as David De Tar (David Detroit, David de la Tour or David Detarre), also a Huguenot. It is said that she married contrary to the wishes of her family and was disinherited.
Marianne, David and their two children, Jacob & Catherine DeTar, came to this country about 1750. David DeTar brought on the journey across the ocean, four black horses, among their household possessions. He was conscripted into military service along with his prize equines within a short time after arriving in the New World.
Passage from Europe to America was funded, in part, by Marianne selling her fine clothes from the "Lady" days. Including her gold lace petti-coats [Under skirts].
According to Susan DeTar [gtgddau of David]"Shortly after their arrival, my father's grandfather,with his team of black horses, was pressed into service during the war with the Indians. He was never heard of thereafter. Through the children of my older Uncles who migrated West in the early part of 1800 [David & Andrew], the legend comes to us that my father's grandfather was scalped & burned at the stake, probably in Jumonville, PA". [a minor, though historical, skirmish did take place at Jumonville on 27 May 1754, but it is the author's belief that David likely disappeared closer to his home on Weissenberg twp. at the hands of restless Indians.]
Marianne collected 50# from her husband's estate, an uncommon occurrence for the era. She remarried
on October 1, 1755, to Johan Anton "Anthony" Altman who arrived in Philadelphia on 15 Sep 1749 aboard the ship 'Phoenix' with many family and neighbors from Herbitzheim, Alsace, Bas-Rhin, France. Also aboard this ship were the Keppel/Koppel family and two gents, Herman & Jacob Latur. This hints that it is possible Marianne knew Anton Altman prior to arriving in America.
Marianne & Anton and many others of this group, removed to western PA and settled in the Greensburg, WSTD Co. area, where they made their marks and populated the wilds of PA with their descendants.
How many thousands of us descend from her?
As long as we live, we will crow and her sacrifices will be rewarded in our memories.
Jeanie Brown
I am descended from Marianne Joghs Tetoit [deTar] [de la Tour]Altman, thru her daughter, Anna Maria Altman who married first, before 1780, to Peter Robb/Raab [about 1764-Jan 1789]and secondly, Heinrich Jacob Krebs [Jacob Cribbs]on 16 Jun 1792 WSTD Co., PA. Jacob and Anna Maria's daughter, Anna Mary Cribbs, b. 08 Aug 1805, married Peter Christ Fehr/Fahr [Fair] and had Mary Jane Fair [1827-1900]who married Geo. Wash. Bell.
Mine is a totally female line of descent from our 'French Lady' :
Marianne Joghs [b.@ 1721-1729]
Anna Maria Altman [b.24 Apr 1766]
Anna Mary Cribbs [b.08 Aug 1805]
Mary Jane Fair [b.03 Jan 1827]
Mary Melissa Bell [b.15 Aug 1850]
Adna Mary Barr [b.12 Feb 1890]
Thelma Carol Allard [b.24 Dec 1922]
Jean Carolyn Miller [b.5 Aug 1946]
As you can see, we held on to the name 'Mary' for several generations until,[in my Mother's time], we lose it completely. I did not have a daughter, so there stops the female lineage. I've worked on family research since 1971 - I was a 'youngster' at the time. I was able to research in the WSTD and Indiana Cos., PA area right after Ruth Hall did the bulk of her search in the same area. The librarians and historians still had her fresh in their minds and I was able to review most of the same material that she had looked at. Later, we actually relocated to the Pittsburgh area and I had a field day for most of two years. Stompin thru cemeteries, wheezing thru dusty basements in Courthouses....heaven!
Naturally, as hindsight always is, I have many regrets about things I SHOULD have done and places I SHOULD have visited....The out come? I have a total respect for those early emigrants to western PA. Especially, a lady of gentle birth who either flung aside or was forcefully deprived of her civilized lifestyle and bore the riggers of the untamed wilds of PA, raising a family which lived by the motto: "While I Live, I Will Crow".
The following is a tale told to her descendants thru several branches of the family - long separated from each other by time and locale. Some truth must be contained in this legend, but so far little research has been applied to the French/German records of the early 1700's. It goes like this.............
Marianne Joghs,[19 Jun 1754 she signed as an executor of husband David's estate using the name 'Marianne Joghs Tetoit']Source: "Annette Kunselman Burgert, FGSP, FASG - Letters of administration for the estate of Marianne's husband)-Marianne hired a lawyer by the name of Biddle to plead her case when the court issued the following order on the '20th day of March in the 27th yr' of George II reign.....To the sherif of Northampton County Greeting. We command you that you summons Mary Ann Teterre lat (sic) of your County, Widow Executrix in her own wrong of all and the goods Chattels Rights and Credits which were of David Teterre deceased."
She was born of a Noble family and was Cousin to the King of France. History shows that Louis XIV ruled France from 1638-1715 and King Louis XV ruled from 1710-1774. She supposedly served as a Lady in Waiting to the French Royal Family. Her Family Crest was a Crowing Cock with the legend, "While I Live I Will Crow". The symbol of a crowing cock was sewn into linens and undergarments Marianne brought to WSTD Co., PA along with a footstool with a hidden compartment which always held her Bible. [quote, Ruth Hall]
The name Joghs, which Marianne used in her 1754 signatures,is a French-Swiss variant of Jacques or Jacobs. This family has frequently used the 'crowing cock' as their emblem. There is a branch of the Royal Family, named 'Joseph', who used the Crowing Cock as a family symbol.
Because they were Huguenot Protestants in a Roman Catholic country, her family suffered persecution. Marianne fled from France with the help of a man 'of the land' [de la Tour]who owned property close to her family's country estate - possibly across the river in more Germanic territory. She married this man whom we know as David De Tar (David Detroit, David de la Tour or David Detarre), also a Huguenot. It is said that she married contrary to the wishes of her family and was disinherited.
Marianne, David and their two children, Jacob & Catherine DeTar, came to this country about 1750. David DeTar brought on the journey across the ocean, four black horses, among their household possessions. He was conscripted into military service along with his prize equines within a short time after arriving in the New World.
Passage from Europe to America was funded, in part, by Marianne selling her fine clothes from the "Lady" days. Including her gold lace petti-coats [Under skirts].
According to Susan DeTar [gtgddau of David]"Shortly after their arrival, my father's grandfather,with his team of black horses, was pressed into service during the war with the Indians. He was never heard of thereafter. Through the children of my older Uncles who migrated West in the early part of 1800 [David & Andrew], the legend comes to us that my father's grandfather was scalped & burned at the stake, probably in Jumonville, PA". [a minor, though historical, skirmish did take place at Jumonville on 27 May 1754, but it is the author's belief that David likely disappeared closer to his home on Weissenberg twp. at the hands of restless Indians.]
Marianne collected 50# from her husband's estate, an uncommon occurrence for the era. She remarried
on October 1, 1755, to Johan Anton "Anthony" Altman who arrived in Philadelphia on 15 Sep 1749 aboard the ship 'Phoenix' with many family and neighbors from Herbitzheim, Alsace, Bas-Rhin, France. Also aboard this ship were the Keppel/Koppel family and two gents, Herman & Jacob Latur. This hints that it is possible Marianne knew Anton Altman prior to arriving in America.
Marianne & Anton and many others of this group, removed to western PA and settled in the Greensburg, WSTD Co. area, where they made their marks and populated the wilds of PA with their descendants.
How many thousands of us descend from her?
As long as we live, we will crow and her sacrifices will be rewarded in our memories.
Jeanie Brown
Mine is a totally female line of descent from our 'French Lady' :
Marianne Joghs [b.@ 1721-1729]
Anna Maria Altman [b.24 Apr 1766]
Anna Mary Cribbs [b.08 Aug 1805]
Mary Jane Fair [b.03 Jan 1827]
Mary Melissa Bell [b.15 Aug 1850]
Adna Mary Barr [b.12 Feb 1890]
Thelma Carol Allard [b.24 Dec 1922]
Jean Carolyn Miller [b.5 Aug 1946]
As you can see, we held on to the name 'Mary' for several generations until,[in my Mother's time], we lose it completely. I did not have a daughter, so there stops the female lineage. I've worked on family research since 1971 - I was a 'youngster' at the time. I was able to research in the WSTD and Indiana Cos., PA area right after Ruth Hall did the bulk of her search in the same area. The librarians and historians still had her fresh in their minds and I was able to review most of the same material that she had looked at. Later, we actually relocated to the Pittsburgh area and I had a field day for most of two years. Stompin thru cemeteries, wheezing thru dusty basements in Courthouses....heaven!
Naturally, as hindsight always is, I have many regrets about things I SHOULD have done and places I SHOULD have visited....The out come? I have a total respect for those early emigrants to western PA. Especially, a lady of gentle birth who either flung aside or was forcefully deprived of her civilized lifestyle and bore the riggers of the untamed wilds of PA, raising a family which lived by the motto: "While I Live, I Will Crow".
The following is a tale told to her descendants thru several branches of the family - long separated from each other by time and locale. Some truth must be contained in this legend, but so far little research has been applied to the French/German records of the early 1700's. It goes like this.............
Marianne Joghs,[19 Jun 1754 she signed as an executor of husband David's estate using the name 'Marianne Joghs Tetoit']Source: "Annette Kunselman Burgert, FGSP, FASG - Letters of administration for the estate of Marianne's husband)-Marianne hired a lawyer by the name of Biddle to plead her case when the court issued the following order on the '20th day of March in the 27th yr' of George II reign.....To the sherif of Northampton County Greeting. We command you that you summons Mary Ann Teterre lat (sic) of your County, Widow Executrix in her own wrong of all and the goods Chattels Rights and Credits which were of David Teterre deceased."
She was born of a Noble family and was Cousin to the King of France. History shows that Louis XIV ruled France from 1638-1715 and King Louis XV ruled from 1710-1774. She supposedly served as a Lady in Waiting to the French Royal Family. Her Family Crest was a Crowing Cock with the legend, "While I Live I Will Crow". The symbol of a crowing cock was sewn into linens and undergarments Marianne brought to WSTD Co., PA along with a footstool with a hidden compartment which always held her Bible. [quote, Ruth Hall]
The name Joghs, which Marianne used in her 1754 signatures,is a French-Swiss variant of Jacques or Jacobs. This family has frequently used the 'crowing cock' as their emblem. There is a branch of the Royal Family, named 'Joseph', who used the Crowing Cock as a family symbol.
Because they were Huguenot Protestants in a Roman Catholic country, her family suffered persecution. Marianne fled from France with the help of a man 'of the land' [de la Tour]who owned property close to her family's country estate - possibly across the river in more Germanic territory. She married this man whom we know as David De Tar (David Detroit, David de la Tour or David Detarre), also a Huguenot. It is said that she married contrary to the wishes of her family and was disinherited.
Marianne, David and their two children, Jacob & Catherine DeTar, came to this country about 1750. David DeTar brought on the journey across the ocean, four black horses, among their household possessions. He was conscripted into military service along with his prize equines within a short time after arriving in the New World.
Passage from Europe to America was funded, in part, by Marianne selling her fine clothes from the "Lady" days. Including her gold lace petti-coats [Under skirts].
According to Susan DeTar [gtgddau of David]"Shortly after their arrival, my father's grandfather,with his team of black horses, was pressed into service during the war with the Indians. He was never heard of thereafter. Through the children of my older Uncles who migrated West in the early part of 1800 [David & Andrew], the legend comes to us that my father's grandfather was scalped & burned at the stake, probably in Jumonville, PA". [a minor, though historical, skirmish did take place at Jumonville on 27 May 1754, but it is the author's belief that David likely disappeared closer to his home on Weissenberg twp. at the hands of restless Indians.]
Marianne collected 50# from her husband's estate, an uncommon occurrence for the era. She remarried
on October 1, 1755, to Johan Anton "Anthony" Altman who arrived in Philadelphia on 15 Sep 1749 aboard the ship 'Phoenix' with many family and neighbors from Herbitzheim, Alsace, Bas-Rhin, France. Also aboard this ship were the Keppel/Koppel family and two gents, Herman & Jacob Latur. This hints that it is possible Marianne knew Anton Altman prior to arriving in America.
Marianne & Anton and many others of this group, removed to western PA and settled in the Greensburg, WSTD Co. area, where they made their marks and populated the wilds of PA with their descendants.
How many thousands of us descend from her?
As long as we live, we will crow and her sacrifices will be rewarded in our memories.
Jeanie Brown
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