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Alice <I>Swithen</I> Carpenter

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Alice Swithen Carpenter

Birth
Wiltshire, England
Death
25 Feb 1637 (aged 57)
Shalbourne, Wiltshire Unitary Authority, Wiltshire, England
Burial
Burial Details Unknown. Specifically: Buried 25 Feb 1637/1638 in Shalbourne, Berkshire, now in,, Wiltshire, England Add to Map
Memorial ID
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Please be aware ...
1) The death date listed above is actually her burial date.
2) This is NOT Mary Bath (Batt), nor Mary Alice Batt. Different Person!
*** DO NOT MERGE ***

MARRIAGE: Despite claims to the contrary, the identity of William1's wife (or wives) is unknown. His having emigrated only three months after the death of Alice Carpenter, who was buried at Shalbourne on 25 January 1637[/8], suggests that she had been his wife (though not necessarily William2's mother); it is possible, however, that she was an unmarried sister or daughter (TAG 70:194-95).
The William Carpenter who married Alice Swithen in St. Denys Church, parish of Warminster, Wiltshire, 14 January 160[4/]5, was probably not the eventual William1 of Shalbourne (see WarPaR 107).
... And ...
The foregoing discussion does not conclusively remove Alice Swithen from consideration as the wife of William1 of Shalbourne. It should be remembered, however, that his relationship to the Alice Carpenter buried there is uncertain. If for argument's sake we accept that she was his wife, the only evidence pointing toward her having been the former Alice Swithen is matching forenames; relative proximity of Shalbourne and Warminster (36–40 miles); and a marriage date compatible with the approximate birth year (1605) of William1 Carpenter's only known child (see CHILDREN section, below). This falls far short of the Genealogical Proof Standard (see BCG).

COMMENT: Over time there seems to be more leaning that she was the wife, but far from proven. JRC

MARRIAGE: 1605 - image
Name: Alice Swithen
Gender: Female
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage or Bann Date: 14 Apr 1605
Marriage or Bann Place: Warminster, St Denys with St Lawrence, Wiltshire, England
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map:
Spouse: William Carpenter
Source Citation
Wiltshire and Swindon History Centre; Chippenham, Wiltshire, England; Wiltshire Church of England Parish Registers; Reference Number: 2144/1
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Wiltshire, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2017.
Original data: Wiltshire Church of England Parish Registers, Wiltshire and Swindon History Centre, Chippenham, Wiltshire, England.

MARRIAGE: 1604 - The image indicates year is 1605, but that applies after 24 March. And the end of the previous page in January 1604 then no month is given on the top of the page indicating it is still Jan 1604.
Name: Alice Swithen
Gender: Female
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage or Bann Date: 1604 Marriage or Bann Place: Warminster, St Denys with St Lawrence, Wiltshire, England
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map:
Spouse: William Carpenter
Source Citation
Wiltshire and Swindon History Centre; Chippenham, Wiltshire, England; Reference Number: 2144/1
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Wiltshire, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2017.
Original data: Wiltshire Church of England Parish Registers, Wiltshire and Swindon History Centre, Chippenham, Wiltshire, England.
SEE ALSO:
Name: Alice Swithen
Marriage Date: 14 Jan 1604
Parish: Warminster
Spouse: William Carpenter Source Information
Ancestry.com. Wiltshire, England, Marriages, 1538-1837 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2013.
Original data: Private donor.
SEE ALSO:
Name: Alice Swithen
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 14 Jan 1604 Marriage Place: Warminster, Wiltshire, England
Spouse: William Carpenter
Search Photos:
Source Citation
Place: Warminster, Wiltshire, England; Collection: St Denys; -; Date Range: 1556 - 1642; Film Number: 1279363
Source Information
Ancestry.com. England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1988 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2008.
Original data: Genealogical Society of Utah. British Isles Vital Records Index, 2nd Edition. Salt Lake City, Utah: Intellectual Reserve, copyright 2002. Used by permission.
SEE ALSO:
Name: Alice Swithen
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 1604
Marriage Place: Saint Denys, Warminster, Wiltshire, England
Spouse: William Carpenter
FHL Film Number: 1279363
Reference ID: 2:RGCX23
Source Information
Ancestry.com. England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.
Original data: England, Marriages, 1538–1973. Salt Lake City, Utah: FamilySearch, 2013.

MARRIAGE - See also - image
Name: Alice Carpenter Maiden Name: Carpenter
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: Before 1605
Death Year: 1637/1638
Spouse: William Carpenter
Source Citation
Genealogical Publishing Co.; Baltimore, MD, USA; Volume Title: Third Supplement to Torrey's New England Marriages Prior to 1700
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S., New England Marriages Prior to 1700 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2012.
Original data: Torry, Clarence A. New England Marriages Prior to 1700. Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., 2004.

BURIAL: image
Name Alice Carpenter
Event Type Burial
Burial Date 25 Feb 1637
Burial Place Shalbourne, Wiltshire, England
Parish as it Appears Shalbourne
Source Citation
Wiltshire and Swindon History Centry; Chippenham, Wiltshire; Wiltshire Church of England Bishop's Transcripts; Reference Number: BT/Shal/Bdl. 1
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Wiltshire, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2017.
Original data: Wiltshire Church of England Parish Registers, Wiltshire and Swindon History Centre, Chippenham, Wiltshire, England.
Please be aware ...
1) The death date listed above is actually her burial date.
2) This is NOT Mary Bath (Batt), nor Mary Alice Batt. Different Person!
*** DO NOT MERGE ***

MARRIAGE: Despite claims to the contrary, the identity of William1's wife (or wives) is unknown. His having emigrated only three months after the death of Alice Carpenter, who was buried at Shalbourne on 25 January 1637[/8], suggests that she had been his wife (though not necessarily William2's mother); it is possible, however, that she was an unmarried sister or daughter (TAG 70:194-95).
The William Carpenter who married Alice Swithen in St. Denys Church, parish of Warminster, Wiltshire, 14 January 160[4/]5, was probably not the eventual William1 of Shalbourne (see WarPaR 107).
... And ...
The foregoing discussion does not conclusively remove Alice Swithen from consideration as the wife of William1 of Shalbourne. It should be remembered, however, that his relationship to the Alice Carpenter buried there is uncertain. If for argument's sake we accept that she was his wife, the only evidence pointing toward her having been the former Alice Swithen is matching forenames; relative proximity of Shalbourne and Warminster (36–40 miles); and a marriage date compatible with the approximate birth year (1605) of William1 Carpenter's only known child (see CHILDREN section, below). This falls far short of the Genealogical Proof Standard (see BCG).

COMMENT: Over time there seems to be more leaning that she was the wife, but far from proven. JRC

MARRIAGE: 1605 - image
Name: Alice Swithen
Gender: Female
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage or Bann Date: 14 Apr 1605
Marriage or Bann Place: Warminster, St Denys with St Lawrence, Wiltshire, England
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map:
Spouse: William Carpenter
Source Citation
Wiltshire and Swindon History Centre; Chippenham, Wiltshire, England; Wiltshire Church of England Parish Registers; Reference Number: 2144/1
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Wiltshire, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2017.
Original data: Wiltshire Church of England Parish Registers, Wiltshire and Swindon History Centre, Chippenham, Wiltshire, England.

MARRIAGE: 1604 - The image indicates year is 1605, but that applies after 24 March. And the end of the previous page in January 1604 then no month is given on the top of the page indicating it is still Jan 1604.
Name: Alice Swithen
Gender: Female
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage or Bann Date: 1604 Marriage or Bann Place: Warminster, St Denys with St Lawrence, Wiltshire, England
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map:
Spouse: William Carpenter
Source Citation
Wiltshire and Swindon History Centre; Chippenham, Wiltshire, England; Reference Number: 2144/1
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Wiltshire, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2017.
Original data: Wiltshire Church of England Parish Registers, Wiltshire and Swindon History Centre, Chippenham, Wiltshire, England.
SEE ALSO:
Name: Alice Swithen
Marriage Date: 14 Jan 1604
Parish: Warminster
Spouse: William Carpenter Source Information
Ancestry.com. Wiltshire, England, Marriages, 1538-1837 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2013.
Original data: Private donor.
SEE ALSO:
Name: Alice Swithen
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 14 Jan 1604 Marriage Place: Warminster, Wiltshire, England
Spouse: William Carpenter
Search Photos:
Source Citation
Place: Warminster, Wiltshire, England; Collection: St Denys; -; Date Range: 1556 - 1642; Film Number: 1279363
Source Information
Ancestry.com. England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1988 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2008.
Original data: Genealogical Society of Utah. British Isles Vital Records Index, 2nd Edition. Salt Lake City, Utah: Intellectual Reserve, copyright 2002. Used by permission.
SEE ALSO:
Name: Alice Swithen
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 1604
Marriage Place: Saint Denys, Warminster, Wiltshire, England
Spouse: William Carpenter
FHL Film Number: 1279363
Reference ID: 2:RGCX23
Source Information
Ancestry.com. England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.
Original data: England, Marriages, 1538–1973. Salt Lake City, Utah: FamilySearch, 2013.

MARRIAGE - See also - image
Name: Alice Carpenter Maiden Name: Carpenter
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: Before 1605
Death Year: 1637/1638
Spouse: William Carpenter
Source Citation
Genealogical Publishing Co.; Baltimore, MD, USA; Volume Title: Third Supplement to Torrey's New England Marriages Prior to 1700
Source Information
Ancestry.com. U.S., New England Marriages Prior to 1700 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2012.
Original data: Torry, Clarence A. New England Marriages Prior to 1700. Baltimore, MD, USA: Genealogical Publishing Co., 2004.

BURIAL: image
Name Alice Carpenter
Event Type Burial
Burial Date 25 Feb 1637
Burial Place Shalbourne, Wiltshire, England
Parish as it Appears Shalbourne
Source Citation
Wiltshire and Swindon History Centry; Chippenham, Wiltshire; Wiltshire Church of England Bishop's Transcripts; Reference Number: BT/Shal/Bdl. 1
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Wiltshire, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2017.
Original data: Wiltshire Church of England Parish Registers, Wiltshire and Swindon History Centre, Chippenham, Wiltshire, England.


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