Per Rachel's Death Certificate:
Father Charley
Mother: Unknown
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1870 Census states Nathan was living with wife Mary and daughter, Rachel b1873 and 8 yr old Martha Burdge. Mary (Burdge) Thorp was age 19 so Martha is most likely her sister. I do not have any proof of other children before Rachel.
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Info provided by original contributor: (not sure what she means by the following)
Age 78. Burial 7/28/1951. Death certificate says father Charley (Nathan middle name or informant mixed up brother's name?)
Their children?
Nathan Infant died
Nathen, 22Y, 10/10/1891, Beer Bottler. Died 9/29/1913 /spinal meningitis. Elmwood Cem, Jackson, MO.
Parents Nathan Thorp Jr. (1-1847 Quincy, Adams Co, IL -1930 Marion Co. IN.) and Mary E. Burge m1868, Marion Co, IN. She died before 1887 (when he married 2nd wife?) maybe in childbirth. Buried with Nathan? Was told she died, not divorced. 1880 Marion Co, IN census shows her with 3 children.
Their children
?Baby died.
1871 ABT Charles (Amanda, married 1900, Amanda born 1873 -died 1903, maybe in childbirth?, buried Fort Wayne), they lived in Joliet, IL. He not mentioned in father Nathan's obit in 1930, only in wife Amanda's obit in 1903. Died between 1903 and 1930 before father or accidentally omitted?
1873 Anna Gebhart, Born Quincy Adams Co,IL, lived Fort Wayne, IL
Twins?
1873 Rachel "Rackey" (Edward) Petro, Born Quincy, Adams Co, Illinois, moved 1931 to Kansas City, MO 20 yrs. until her death 1951. Maybe lived in Illinois before that.
Nathan Thorp's 2nd wife Ida C. (Shannon) Thatcher, married after 1887 when she got divorce from 1st husband after he left her and newborn & didn't come back.
1909 She worked restaurant,
1920 kept rooming house.
Nathan was liquor dealer & merchant.
She is in Indiana Soldiers Home Cemetery. Various references show she spelled her last name with an E Thorpe. Some family members used E some did not, even in same document like relative's obit.
Their children
1895 Ida Appleton, Toledo, OH
Mrs. Joseph Johnson, Mansfield, OH after 1930? (Ida's foster child in her obit)
His parents Nathan Thorp Sr. born 1818 and wife Catherine,(1850 Shelby Co. Addison Twp, IN census shows son
Nathan (3yr?) and sisters
Martha (2yrs?) and
Margaret "Maggie" (1yr?) (husband George Fling) and other people.)
His father might have had a brother William D. Thorp born Decatur Co, IN 1808 whose family stayed in Decatur, IN. 1860 Marion Co, Wayne Twp, IN census Nathan Sr. and new wife? are living next to George Fling. Sister Margaret married George Fling in 1873 when ABT 23yrs.
His grandparents might be Nathan Thorp I born ABT 1795, died 1874. (1840 and 1850 Decatur Co, IN census shows sons Chauncey and Daniel are with Nathan Sr.
Census
1900
Ward 2, Pct 7, Quincy, Adams, IL - 11 Jun
222? South St., #264/286
THORP, Nathan, b.1-1849 (sic 1847), 51, m.17y, IN, KY, OH - liquor dealer
, Ida, b.5-1861, 39, m.17y, 1 child/1 living, IN, VA, OH - restaurant
, Ida, dau, b.2-1895, 5, IL, IN, IN
POWELL, Otto, servant, b.2-1837, 63, S, GERM, GERM, GERM, 1866 al - cook
BLONDIN/EN, Hattie, domestic, b.11-1872, 27, m.7y, 0/0, OH, PA, OH - domestic
Census
1910
Edward Petro 55 yrs
Rachel Petro 39 yrs
Residence Kansas City Ward 6, Jackson, MO.
Census
1930
Indiana, Marion County, Indianapolis, April 21, 1930 1239 South Pershing Avenue
Thorp, Nathan; head; own; 1400; radio; not a farm; 83; age 36 at first marriage; IN; IN: IN: retired; vet of Civil War, Ida C.; wife; 70; age 23 at first mg; IN; WV; IN.
Father Charley
Mother: Unknown
___________________
1870 Census states Nathan was living with wife Mary and daughter, Rachel b1873 and 8 yr old Martha Burdge. Mary (Burdge) Thorp was age 19 so Martha is most likely her sister. I do not have any proof of other children before Rachel.
___________________
Info provided by original contributor: (not sure what she means by the following)
Age 78. Burial 7/28/1951. Death certificate says father Charley (Nathan middle name or informant mixed up brother's name?)
Their children?
Nathan Infant died
Nathen, 22Y, 10/10/1891, Beer Bottler. Died 9/29/1913 /spinal meningitis. Elmwood Cem, Jackson, MO.
Parents Nathan Thorp Jr. (1-1847 Quincy, Adams Co, IL -1930 Marion Co. IN.) and Mary E. Burge m1868, Marion Co, IN. She died before 1887 (when he married 2nd wife?) maybe in childbirth. Buried with Nathan? Was told she died, not divorced. 1880 Marion Co, IN census shows her with 3 children.
Their children
?Baby died.
1871 ABT Charles (Amanda, married 1900, Amanda born 1873 -died 1903, maybe in childbirth?, buried Fort Wayne), they lived in Joliet, IL. He not mentioned in father Nathan's obit in 1930, only in wife Amanda's obit in 1903. Died between 1903 and 1930 before father or accidentally omitted?
1873 Anna Gebhart, Born Quincy Adams Co,IL, lived Fort Wayne, IL
Twins?
1873 Rachel "Rackey" (Edward) Petro, Born Quincy, Adams Co, Illinois, moved 1931 to Kansas City, MO 20 yrs. until her death 1951. Maybe lived in Illinois before that.
Nathan Thorp's 2nd wife Ida C. (Shannon) Thatcher, married after 1887 when she got divorce from 1st husband after he left her and newborn & didn't come back.
1909 She worked restaurant,
1920 kept rooming house.
Nathan was liquor dealer & merchant.
She is in Indiana Soldiers Home Cemetery. Various references show she spelled her last name with an E Thorpe. Some family members used E some did not, even in same document like relative's obit.
Their children
1895 Ida Appleton, Toledo, OH
Mrs. Joseph Johnson, Mansfield, OH after 1930? (Ida's foster child in her obit)
His parents Nathan Thorp Sr. born 1818 and wife Catherine,(1850 Shelby Co. Addison Twp, IN census shows son
Nathan (3yr?) and sisters
Martha (2yrs?) and
Margaret "Maggie" (1yr?) (husband George Fling) and other people.)
His father might have had a brother William D. Thorp born Decatur Co, IN 1808 whose family stayed in Decatur, IN. 1860 Marion Co, Wayne Twp, IN census Nathan Sr. and new wife? are living next to George Fling. Sister Margaret married George Fling in 1873 when ABT 23yrs.
His grandparents might be Nathan Thorp I born ABT 1795, died 1874. (1840 and 1850 Decatur Co, IN census shows sons Chauncey and Daniel are with Nathan Sr.
Census
1900
Ward 2, Pct 7, Quincy, Adams, IL - 11 Jun
222? South St., #264/286
THORP, Nathan, b.1-1849 (sic 1847), 51, m.17y, IN, KY, OH - liquor dealer
, Ida, b.5-1861, 39, m.17y, 1 child/1 living, IN, VA, OH - restaurant
, Ida, dau, b.2-1895, 5, IL, IN, IN
POWELL, Otto, servant, b.2-1837, 63, S, GERM, GERM, GERM, 1866 al - cook
BLONDIN/EN, Hattie, domestic, b.11-1872, 27, m.7y, 0/0, OH, PA, OH - domestic
Census
1910
Edward Petro 55 yrs
Rachel Petro 39 yrs
Residence Kansas City Ward 6, Jackson, MO.
Census
1930
Indiana, Marion County, Indianapolis, April 21, 1930 1239 South Pershing Avenue
Thorp, Nathan; head; own; 1400; radio; not a farm; 83; age 36 at first marriage; IN; IN: IN: retired; vet of Civil War, Ida C.; wife; 70; age 23 at first mg; IN; WV; IN.
Per Rachel's Death Certificate:
Father Charley
Mother: Unknown
___________________
1870 Census states Nathan was living with wife Mary and daughter, Rachel b1873 and 8 yr old Martha Burdge. Mary (Burdge) Thorp was age 19 so Martha is most likely her sister. I do not have any proof of other children before Rachel.
___________________
Info provided by original contributor: (not sure what she means by the following)
Age 78. Burial 7/28/1951. Death certificate says father Charley (Nathan middle name or informant mixed up brother's name?)
Their children?
Nathan Infant died
Nathen, 22Y, 10/10/1891, Beer Bottler. Died 9/29/1913 /spinal meningitis. Elmwood Cem, Jackson, MO.
Parents Nathan Thorp Jr. (1-1847 Quincy, Adams Co, IL -1930 Marion Co. IN.) and Mary E. Burge m1868, Marion Co, IN. She died before 1887 (when he married 2nd wife?) maybe in childbirth. Buried with Nathan? Was told she died, not divorced. 1880 Marion Co, IN census shows her with 3 children.
Their children
?Baby died.
1871 ABT Charles (Amanda, married 1900, Amanda born 1873 -died 1903, maybe in childbirth?, buried Fort Wayne), they lived in Joliet, IL. He not mentioned in father Nathan's obit in 1930, only in wife Amanda's obit in 1903. Died between 1903 and 1930 before father or accidentally omitted?
1873 Anna Gebhart, Born Quincy Adams Co,IL, lived Fort Wayne, IL
Twins?
1873 Rachel "Rackey" (Edward) Petro, Born Quincy, Adams Co, Illinois, moved 1931 to Kansas City, MO 20 yrs. until her death 1951. Maybe lived in Illinois before that.
Nathan Thorp's 2nd wife Ida C. (Shannon) Thatcher, married after 1887 when she got divorce from 1st husband after he left her and newborn & didn't come back.
1909 She worked restaurant,
1920 kept rooming house.
Nathan was liquor dealer & merchant.
She is in Indiana Soldiers Home Cemetery. Various references show she spelled her last name with an E Thorpe. Some family members used E some did not, even in same document like relative's obit.
Their children
1895 Ida Appleton, Toledo, OH
Mrs. Joseph Johnson, Mansfield, OH after 1930? (Ida's foster child in her obit)
His parents Nathan Thorp Sr. born 1818 and wife Catherine,(1850 Shelby Co. Addison Twp, IN census shows son
Nathan (3yr?) and sisters
Martha (2yrs?) and
Margaret "Maggie" (1yr?) (husband George Fling) and other people.)
His father might have had a brother William D. Thorp born Decatur Co, IN 1808 whose family stayed in Decatur, IN. 1860 Marion Co, Wayne Twp, IN census Nathan Sr. and new wife? are living next to George Fling. Sister Margaret married George Fling in 1873 when ABT 23yrs.
His grandparents might be Nathan Thorp I born ABT 1795, died 1874. (1840 and 1850 Decatur Co, IN census shows sons Chauncey and Daniel are with Nathan Sr.
Census
1900
Ward 2, Pct 7, Quincy, Adams, IL - 11 Jun
222? South St., #264/286
THORP, Nathan, b.1-1849 (sic 1847), 51, m.17y, IN, KY, OH - liquor dealer
, Ida, b.5-1861, 39, m.17y, 1 child/1 living, IN, VA, OH - restaurant
, Ida, dau, b.2-1895, 5, IL, IN, IN
POWELL, Otto, servant, b.2-1837, 63, S, GERM, GERM, GERM, 1866 al - cook
BLONDIN/EN, Hattie, domestic, b.11-1872, 27, m.7y, 0/0, OH, PA, OH - domestic
Census
1910
Edward Petro 55 yrs
Rachel Petro 39 yrs
Residence Kansas City Ward 6, Jackson, MO.
Census
1930
Indiana, Marion County, Indianapolis, April 21, 1930 1239 South Pershing Avenue
Thorp, Nathan; head; own; 1400; radio; not a farm; 83; age 36 at first marriage; IN; IN: IN: retired; vet of Civil War, Ida C.; wife; 70; age 23 at first mg; IN; WV; IN.
Father Charley
Mother: Unknown
___________________
1870 Census states Nathan was living with wife Mary and daughter, Rachel b1873 and 8 yr old Martha Burdge. Mary (Burdge) Thorp was age 19 so Martha is most likely her sister. I do not have any proof of other children before Rachel.
___________________
Info provided by original contributor: (not sure what she means by the following)
Age 78. Burial 7/28/1951. Death certificate says father Charley (Nathan middle name or informant mixed up brother's name?)
Their children?
Nathan Infant died
Nathen, 22Y, 10/10/1891, Beer Bottler. Died 9/29/1913 /spinal meningitis. Elmwood Cem, Jackson, MO.
Parents Nathan Thorp Jr. (1-1847 Quincy, Adams Co, IL -1930 Marion Co. IN.) and Mary E. Burge m1868, Marion Co, IN. She died before 1887 (when he married 2nd wife?) maybe in childbirth. Buried with Nathan? Was told she died, not divorced. 1880 Marion Co, IN census shows her with 3 children.
Their children
?Baby died.
1871 ABT Charles (Amanda, married 1900, Amanda born 1873 -died 1903, maybe in childbirth?, buried Fort Wayne), they lived in Joliet, IL. He not mentioned in father Nathan's obit in 1930, only in wife Amanda's obit in 1903. Died between 1903 and 1930 before father or accidentally omitted?
1873 Anna Gebhart, Born Quincy Adams Co,IL, lived Fort Wayne, IL
Twins?
1873 Rachel "Rackey" (Edward) Petro, Born Quincy, Adams Co, Illinois, moved 1931 to Kansas City, MO 20 yrs. until her death 1951. Maybe lived in Illinois before that.
Nathan Thorp's 2nd wife Ida C. (Shannon) Thatcher, married after 1887 when she got divorce from 1st husband after he left her and newborn & didn't come back.
1909 She worked restaurant,
1920 kept rooming house.
Nathan was liquor dealer & merchant.
She is in Indiana Soldiers Home Cemetery. Various references show she spelled her last name with an E Thorpe. Some family members used E some did not, even in same document like relative's obit.
Their children
1895 Ida Appleton, Toledo, OH
Mrs. Joseph Johnson, Mansfield, OH after 1930? (Ida's foster child in her obit)
His parents Nathan Thorp Sr. born 1818 and wife Catherine,(1850 Shelby Co. Addison Twp, IN census shows son
Nathan (3yr?) and sisters
Martha (2yrs?) and
Margaret "Maggie" (1yr?) (husband George Fling) and other people.)
His father might have had a brother William D. Thorp born Decatur Co, IN 1808 whose family stayed in Decatur, IN. 1860 Marion Co, Wayne Twp, IN census Nathan Sr. and new wife? are living next to George Fling. Sister Margaret married George Fling in 1873 when ABT 23yrs.
His grandparents might be Nathan Thorp I born ABT 1795, died 1874. (1840 and 1850 Decatur Co, IN census shows sons Chauncey and Daniel are with Nathan Sr.
Census
1900
Ward 2, Pct 7, Quincy, Adams, IL - 11 Jun
222? South St., #264/286
THORP, Nathan, b.1-1849 (sic 1847), 51, m.17y, IN, KY, OH - liquor dealer
, Ida, b.5-1861, 39, m.17y, 1 child/1 living, IN, VA, OH - restaurant
, Ida, dau, b.2-1895, 5, IL, IN, IN
POWELL, Otto, servant, b.2-1837, 63, S, GERM, GERM, GERM, 1866 al - cook
BLONDIN/EN, Hattie, domestic, b.11-1872, 27, m.7y, 0/0, OH, PA, OH - domestic
Census
1910
Edward Petro 55 yrs
Rachel Petro 39 yrs
Residence Kansas City Ward 6, Jackson, MO.
Census
1930
Indiana, Marion County, Indianapolis, April 21, 1930 1239 South Pershing Avenue
Thorp, Nathan; head; own; 1400; radio; not a farm; 83; age 36 at first marriage; IN; IN: IN: retired; vet of Civil War, Ida C.; wife; 70; age 23 at first mg; IN; WV; IN.
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