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Johann Jacob Alles Veteran

Birth
Germany
Death
1785 (aged 62–63)
Hanover, York County, Pennsylvania, USA
Burial
Burial Details Unknown. Specifically: Burial on Family Farm Add to Map
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Johann Jacob Alles who was born in about 1722 in Nellmersbach, Neckarkreis, Wuerttemberg (Germany) and died in about 1785 in Hanover County, (now Dauphin County), Pennsylvania, his wife was Elizabeth Mohr who was born in 1726 in Nellmersbach, Neckarkreis, Wuerttemberg (Germany) and died in about 1785 in Dauphin County, Pennsylvania. Together they had three sons, Jacob Alles, Abraham Alles and Christopher Alles.
The Alles family immigrated to this country from Nellmersbach, Neckarkreis, Wuerttemberg (Germany), via the port at Rotterdam in the Netherlands aboard the ship "Dragon", also aboard the ship was also an Abraham Alles which is believed to be Johann's brother. They entered port in the Colonial City of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania on October 17, 1749. They then joined a group of fellow German immigrants and traveled west to what was then called Lancaster County, Pennsylvania (Lancaster County is now Dauphin County) and settled in the predominantly German Community of Hanover Township. It is not known if they were married before they immigrated to the Colonies, or after they arrived. This also brings up the question as to whether Jacob was born in Germany or in Pennsylvania. One would have to assume that if Jacob was born in 1748 that his parents were married prior to their voyage. Of course to add to the confusion, the date of Jacob's birth is also an item of debate. Johann served in the French and Indian War and enlisted August 7, 1756.
When Johann died in about 1785 in Pennsylvania, his son, Abraham Alles "inherited" his property (a Dauphin County, Pennsylvania deed in 1785 describes the inheritance). On the 1779 tax record for Abram Allas, no land--no separate list for single men & 1782 Lancaster County tax list for the Hanover Township.
"Abram" is listed among the "People Over the Mountain", with 110 acres on the 1782 tax list and the deed. The deed is for Dauphin County, Pennsylvania dated April 18, 1785 (Deed Book 1A, p.220-1, see computer file). Abraham sold 110 acres to a George Holtz near Fishing Creek, in Hanover Township. The land was apparently deeded to Abraham by his mother and other heirs after his father died in the Johann Jacob Alles estate. It lists neighbors including John Carbury, whose daughter may have married Christopher Ellis and date was December 10, 1751 of original warrant from the "Proprietaries" (colonial government, Penn's sons) for the land obtained by his father "Jacob Ellis." The deed couldn't be found the deed to from heirs to Abraham in Lancaster County Grantee index covering A through E. If it were recorded, it would presumably list Johan Jacob Alles' wife and children. (It could have been in the Lancaster County "Miscellaneous" Book, which has some administrations. Also, there is no warrant in the Pennsylvania Land Warrant Register, V.16, covering Lancaster County for Alles/Ellis etc. The only warrant for December 10, 1751 is to a Wendell Stohlts, a survey for 100 acres in Hanover Township on Fishing Creek. The return date was December 5, 1837 by Elizabeth and Martha Montgomery for 137 acres, not a perfect match to 110 acres sold by Abraham Ellis, (Warrant: H 38 255; Survey: C 210 208). It is possible that it was sold to Johann Jacob Alles and not recorded at the time of the sale. There is no listing in the Lancaster County Grantee index A through E. Johann died without leaving a will according to the 1785 deed of sale by his son Abraham Alles. There was nothing in the Orphan Court index for Lancaster County, which has some administrations.
Johann Jacob Alles who was born in about 1722 in Nellmersbach, Neckarkreis, Wuerttemberg (Germany) and died in about 1785 in Hanover County, (now Dauphin County), Pennsylvania, his wife was Elizabeth Mohr who was born in 1726 in Nellmersbach, Neckarkreis, Wuerttemberg (Germany) and died in about 1785 in Dauphin County, Pennsylvania. Together they had three sons, Jacob Alles, Abraham Alles and Christopher Alles.
The Alles family immigrated to this country from Nellmersbach, Neckarkreis, Wuerttemberg (Germany), via the port at Rotterdam in the Netherlands aboard the ship "Dragon", also aboard the ship was also an Abraham Alles which is believed to be Johann's brother. They entered port in the Colonial City of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania on October 17, 1749. They then joined a group of fellow German immigrants and traveled west to what was then called Lancaster County, Pennsylvania (Lancaster County is now Dauphin County) and settled in the predominantly German Community of Hanover Township. It is not known if they were married before they immigrated to the Colonies, or after they arrived. This also brings up the question as to whether Jacob was born in Germany or in Pennsylvania. One would have to assume that if Jacob was born in 1748 that his parents were married prior to their voyage. Of course to add to the confusion, the date of Jacob's birth is also an item of debate. Johann served in the French and Indian War and enlisted August 7, 1756.
When Johann died in about 1785 in Pennsylvania, his son, Abraham Alles "inherited" his property (a Dauphin County, Pennsylvania deed in 1785 describes the inheritance). On the 1779 tax record for Abram Allas, no land--no separate list for single men & 1782 Lancaster County tax list for the Hanover Township.
"Abram" is listed among the "People Over the Mountain", with 110 acres on the 1782 tax list and the deed. The deed is for Dauphin County, Pennsylvania dated April 18, 1785 (Deed Book 1A, p.220-1, see computer file). Abraham sold 110 acres to a George Holtz near Fishing Creek, in Hanover Township. The land was apparently deeded to Abraham by his mother and other heirs after his father died in the Johann Jacob Alles estate. It lists neighbors including John Carbury, whose daughter may have married Christopher Ellis and date was December 10, 1751 of original warrant from the "Proprietaries" (colonial government, Penn's sons) for the land obtained by his father "Jacob Ellis." The deed couldn't be found the deed to from heirs to Abraham in Lancaster County Grantee index covering A through E. If it were recorded, it would presumably list Johan Jacob Alles' wife and children. (It could have been in the Lancaster County "Miscellaneous" Book, which has some administrations. Also, there is no warrant in the Pennsylvania Land Warrant Register, V.16, covering Lancaster County for Alles/Ellis etc. The only warrant for December 10, 1751 is to a Wendell Stohlts, a survey for 100 acres in Hanover Township on Fishing Creek. The return date was December 5, 1837 by Elizabeth and Martha Montgomery for 137 acres, not a perfect match to 110 acres sold by Abraham Ellis, (Warrant: H 38 255; Survey: C 210 208). It is possible that it was sold to Johann Jacob Alles and not recorded at the time of the sale. There is no listing in the Lancaster County Grantee index A through E. Johann died without leaving a will according to the 1785 deed of sale by his son Abraham Alles. There was nothing in the Orphan Court index for Lancaster County, which has some administrations.


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