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Thomas Baker

Birth
East Hampton, Suffolk County, New York, USA
Death
8 Sep 1735 (aged 81)
East Hampton, Suffolk County, New York, USA
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East Hampton, Suffolk County, New York, USA Add to Map
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Married April 24, 1686 Suffolk Co., New York, Ann Topping

Info from: Douglas
Thomas Baker b 1618 who married Alice Dayton b. 1620
I believe your Thomas Baker who married Elizabeth Osborn is not the son of Thomas Baker the 1st b. 1618 and Alice b. 1620 but is in fact Thomas the 3rd whos parents are Thomas the 2nd and Ann Topping. This is what I found.


◦Thomas Baker the 2nd born 26 July 1654 is buried in Amagansett Cemetery (Nathaniel Baker, Account Book). There is a gravestone according to Compilation by Charles A. Baker, 1963 (JH 110-a) at the East Hampton Library, Long Island Collection. The title of this book is Genealogical History from Thomas Baker to Present Generations. This work also asserts that Thomas's second wife was not Elizabeth Westover but Elizabeth (Edwards) Stratton widow of Richard Stratton. This, however, appears to be incorrect. See article by Mrs. James T. Watts, of Washington, D.C. "The Second Wife of Thomas Baker of East Hampton, Long Island" in The American Genealogist, Whole No. 36, April 1933, Vol. IX, No. 4. East Hampton was originally known as Maidstone. (East Hampton was originally called Maidstone after Maidstone, Kent from which they came. The name was later changed to East Hampton (one word) reflecting the geographic names of its sister former Connecticut neighbors of Southampton and Westhampton. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Hampton_(town)). Thomas's Will, New York County Surrogates' Chn. Office, Lib. 12, p. 400.

In error, Frank Baker in his compilation: The Ancestry of Samuel Baker of Pleasant Valley, Steuben County, New York, With Some of His Descendants, Chicago, 1914 says that Elizabeth Osborn was the second wife of Thomas Baker (born 1654); however, Elizabeth Osborn was the first wife of Thomas Baker (born 1690). Mr. Baker bases his beliefs on the church records indicating that on 6 December 1711 "Thomas Baker, June'r & Elizabeth Osborn, daughter of Joseph Osborn, Tayler, both of East Hampton" were married (5 East Hampton Records, p.522). However, it is the Thomas Baker, born 1690 who is called "Jr."

Mr. Baker goes on to state "That the Thomas Baker who married Elizabeth Osborn was Thomas 2nd, and not his son Thomas, is certain, for in his Will he mentions his wife Elizabeth, and in the old burying ground in East Hampton, they lie side by side, with the following inscriptions on their gravestones:

"Here lies ye body of Mr. Thomas Baker who departed this life 8 September 1735, in ye 80th year of his life."
"Here lies Interred the body of Mrs. Elizabeth Baker, Relict of Mr. Thomas Baker, who died July ye 18, 1753, in ye 84th year of her life."

Certainly, "Mrs. Elizabeth Baker" does not negate Elizabeth Westover as Thomas Baker's wife.
See at East Hampton Library for copy of Thomas' Will dated 11 February 1721 naming Elizabeth as his wife and his daughter Mercy and sons Daniel, Micah, Samuel, Jeremiah, John, and Nathaniel.

In J. Montgomery Seaver's The Baker Genealogy. Philadelphia, PA: American Historical Society, 1929 (Call No.: CS71.B17S43x, Mr. Seaver, on p. 35, states that Ann Topping is the mother of Nathaniel (1699), Micah (1700), and Samual (1702) when in fact the mother of these sons is Elizabeth Westover.

His tombstone is identified in Ancient Long Island Epitaphs from the Towns of Southold, Shelter Island and EastEasthampton, Suffolk Co., LI, NY by Edward Doubleday Harris, being a reprint from the New England Historical and Genealogical register, with additions. Originally published, Boston, 1903, a facsimile reprint published 2001 by Heritage Books, 1540E Pointer Ridge Place, Bowie, MD 20716 (1-800-398-7709), www.heritagebooks.com.
There is considerable disagreement regarding the marriages of this Thomas Baker as presented on p. 206 of Jeanette Edwards Rattray's, East Hampton History, (Garden City, NY: Country Life Press, 1953). Records appear to substantiate his marriage, in Southampton, to Ann Topping on 24 April 1686. The argument (The American Genealogist, April 1933, p. 201-204) for Elizabeth Westover being the wife who survived him seems relatively convincing and the best of those presented. The makeup of his family, based upon church records, leads us to believe that it is very probable Ann Topping died young and that Elizabeth was the mother of most of his children. Neither of the two other possible marriages mentioned in East Hampton History seems likely. Subsequent to the death of his father in 1700, this Thomas Baker would have no longer been referred to as "Thomas Baker junior." His eldest son Thomas would have, by convention, become Thomas Jr., and was the individual who married Elizabeth Osborn on 6 December 1711. Thomas Baker's Will, dated 11 February 1721 and proved 4 December 1735, names his wife Elizabeth; daughter Mercy, under 18; and sons, Daniel, Micah, Samuel, Jeremiah, and John. He leaves his son Nathaniel the bulk of his estate and names him executor.

Genealogylibrary.com: Abstracts of Wills Vol. III 1730-1744, page 400:
In the name of God, Amen. I, THOMAS BAKER, of East Hampton, in Suffolk County, being in good health. I leave to my wife Elizabeth, 1/3 of all personal estate, except oe20. I leave to my daughter Mercy, oe20, when she is 18 years of age. To my son Daniel, oe14. To my son Micah, oe30. To my son Samuel, oe5. To my son Jeremiah, oe20. To my son John, oe20. I leave to my son, Nathaniel Baker, all the rest of my estate, and make him executor."
("oe" stands for "old English" http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/OE).

Dated 11 February 1721. Witnesses, Ebenezer Willis, George Fyer, John Davis. Proved, 4 December 4, 1735.
Married April 24, 1686 Suffolk Co., New York, Ann Topping

Info from: Douglas
Thomas Baker b 1618 who married Alice Dayton b. 1620
I believe your Thomas Baker who married Elizabeth Osborn is not the son of Thomas Baker the 1st b. 1618 and Alice b. 1620 but is in fact Thomas the 3rd whos parents are Thomas the 2nd and Ann Topping. This is what I found.


◦Thomas Baker the 2nd born 26 July 1654 is buried in Amagansett Cemetery (Nathaniel Baker, Account Book). There is a gravestone according to Compilation by Charles A. Baker, 1963 (JH 110-a) at the East Hampton Library, Long Island Collection. The title of this book is Genealogical History from Thomas Baker to Present Generations. This work also asserts that Thomas's second wife was not Elizabeth Westover but Elizabeth (Edwards) Stratton widow of Richard Stratton. This, however, appears to be incorrect. See article by Mrs. James T. Watts, of Washington, D.C. "The Second Wife of Thomas Baker of East Hampton, Long Island" in The American Genealogist, Whole No. 36, April 1933, Vol. IX, No. 4. East Hampton was originally known as Maidstone. (East Hampton was originally called Maidstone after Maidstone, Kent from which they came. The name was later changed to East Hampton (one word) reflecting the geographic names of its sister former Connecticut neighbors of Southampton and Westhampton. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Hampton_(town)). Thomas's Will, New York County Surrogates' Chn. Office, Lib. 12, p. 400.

In error, Frank Baker in his compilation: The Ancestry of Samuel Baker of Pleasant Valley, Steuben County, New York, With Some of His Descendants, Chicago, 1914 says that Elizabeth Osborn was the second wife of Thomas Baker (born 1654); however, Elizabeth Osborn was the first wife of Thomas Baker (born 1690). Mr. Baker bases his beliefs on the church records indicating that on 6 December 1711 "Thomas Baker, June'r & Elizabeth Osborn, daughter of Joseph Osborn, Tayler, both of East Hampton" were married (5 East Hampton Records, p.522). However, it is the Thomas Baker, born 1690 who is called "Jr."

Mr. Baker goes on to state "That the Thomas Baker who married Elizabeth Osborn was Thomas 2nd, and not his son Thomas, is certain, for in his Will he mentions his wife Elizabeth, and in the old burying ground in East Hampton, they lie side by side, with the following inscriptions on their gravestones:

"Here lies ye body of Mr. Thomas Baker who departed this life 8 September 1735, in ye 80th year of his life."
"Here lies Interred the body of Mrs. Elizabeth Baker, Relict of Mr. Thomas Baker, who died July ye 18, 1753, in ye 84th year of her life."

Certainly, "Mrs. Elizabeth Baker" does not negate Elizabeth Westover as Thomas Baker's wife.
See at East Hampton Library for copy of Thomas' Will dated 11 February 1721 naming Elizabeth as his wife and his daughter Mercy and sons Daniel, Micah, Samuel, Jeremiah, John, and Nathaniel.

In J. Montgomery Seaver's The Baker Genealogy. Philadelphia, PA: American Historical Society, 1929 (Call No.: CS71.B17S43x, Mr. Seaver, on p. 35, states that Ann Topping is the mother of Nathaniel (1699), Micah (1700), and Samual (1702) when in fact the mother of these sons is Elizabeth Westover.

His tombstone is identified in Ancient Long Island Epitaphs from the Towns of Southold, Shelter Island and EastEasthampton, Suffolk Co., LI, NY by Edward Doubleday Harris, being a reprint from the New England Historical and Genealogical register, with additions. Originally published, Boston, 1903, a facsimile reprint published 2001 by Heritage Books, 1540E Pointer Ridge Place, Bowie, MD 20716 (1-800-398-7709), www.heritagebooks.com.
There is considerable disagreement regarding the marriages of this Thomas Baker as presented on p. 206 of Jeanette Edwards Rattray's, East Hampton History, (Garden City, NY: Country Life Press, 1953). Records appear to substantiate his marriage, in Southampton, to Ann Topping on 24 April 1686. The argument (The American Genealogist, April 1933, p. 201-204) for Elizabeth Westover being the wife who survived him seems relatively convincing and the best of those presented. The makeup of his family, based upon church records, leads us to believe that it is very probable Ann Topping died young and that Elizabeth was the mother of most of his children. Neither of the two other possible marriages mentioned in East Hampton History seems likely. Subsequent to the death of his father in 1700, this Thomas Baker would have no longer been referred to as "Thomas Baker junior." His eldest son Thomas would have, by convention, become Thomas Jr., and was the individual who married Elizabeth Osborn on 6 December 1711. Thomas Baker's Will, dated 11 February 1721 and proved 4 December 1735, names his wife Elizabeth; daughter Mercy, under 18; and sons, Daniel, Micah, Samuel, Jeremiah, and John. He leaves his son Nathaniel the bulk of his estate and names him executor.

Genealogylibrary.com: Abstracts of Wills Vol. III 1730-1744, page 400:
In the name of God, Amen. I, THOMAS BAKER, of East Hampton, in Suffolk County, being in good health. I leave to my wife Elizabeth, 1/3 of all personal estate, except oe20. I leave to my daughter Mercy, oe20, when she is 18 years of age. To my son Daniel, oe14. To my son Micah, oe30. To my son Samuel, oe5. To my son Jeremiah, oe20. To my son John, oe20. I leave to my son, Nathaniel Baker, all the rest of my estate, and make him executor."
("oe" stands for "old English" http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/OE).

Dated 11 February 1721. Witnesses, Ebenezer Willis, George Fyer, John Davis. Proved, 4 December 4, 1735.

Bio by: J L Crall


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in ye 82d year of his age



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  • Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/33956412/thomas-baker: accessed ), memorial page for Thomas Baker (26 Jul 1654–8 Sep 1735), Find a Grave Memorial ID 33956412, citing South End Cemetery, East Hampton, Suffolk County, New York, USA; Maintained by Fred Saar (contributor 46511066).